Posts by Max Divergent

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China officially #1 WORLD POWER, surpassed USA in economy and soon will in military.

by EndofMysteries in

another thread related but the title only says, "china is #1", which can mean anything and hence many may not view it who would be intersted in the world power shift.. for the first time since 1945 usa is #2 for economy.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/its-official-america-is-now-no-2-2014-12-04.

do you think the gb are sweating yet?

Max Divergent

I wonder if the concentration of wealth in a few also concentrates effective political control in the same few. Thus a narrower national political agenda can be pursued; that is, the agenda that further concentrates power and wealth in the few including via foreign policy.

If that were so, then the US would be heading away from popular democracy and toward some form of corporate oligarchy, hopefully with democratic characteristics.

Such a drift would reduce the US long-term influence in the broader global contest of ideas, kind of like how capitalism/democracy/socialism with Chinese characteristics only affords the Chinese limited international political legitimacy.

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Does anyone remember a district overseer Joe Slaiman?

by stuckinarut2 in

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joe slaiman and his wife jean were in the travelling work in australia throughout the 90's... ( i may have spelt the name incorrectly).

anyone remember them?

they were very well liked by many of the brothers and sisters.. i wonder what happened to him?

Max Divergent

Last I heard they were living in NSW. They were a decent and fun couple. They came to our place for lunch once with a CO couple, the CO was DFd not long after. Joe saw The Australian (broardsheet newspaper seldom seen in JW houses) and he just made a beeline for it. Spent most of lunch reading, while the other three made chatter. I liked him for doing that (it wasn't in the least bit rude).

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Australian cult leader - A former Jehovah's Witness

by Hidden-Window in

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friends

a documentary states that this cult leader, who claims to be jesus, used to be "a jehovah's witness pastor".

i guess they mean elder.

does anybody from australia recognize him?.

Max Divergent

He was the most popular elder by far, the others were nutcases.

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Are Jehovah's Witnesses Psycopaths?

by stuckinarut2 in

i have been thinking that jws display an organizationally officially promoted form of thinking that makes them psycopaths!.

what i mean is, any person who enjoyed reading and leaning about past gruesome deaths, or who justified such things as being normal or acceptable would be deemed to be dangerous to society...a psychopath.

(by this i am refferring to the content of the bible of course).

Max Divergent

Big corporations act like psychopaths. They simply do not care about or have empathy for anyone. WTS is a corporation; it acts like a psychopath. JWs act like the WTS tells them to; but that dosn't make individual JWs psychopathic.

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China officially #1 WORLD POWER, surpassed USA in economy and soon will in military.

by EndofMysteries in

another thread related but the title only says, "china is #1", which can mean anything and hence many may not view it who would be intersted in the world power shift.. for the first time since 1945 usa is #2 for economy.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/its-official-america-is-now-no-2-2014-12-04.

do you think the gb are sweating yet?

Max Divergent

Or has the US declined past China?

The concentration of wealth in the richest 1% (indeed, richest 0.1%) of Americans is now a national wealth issue for the US.

The country can't get richer unless most of it's people are getting richer, and they're not. Nor can the country stay free unless its ciitzens have the resources to be independent. And personal resources are declining for most Americans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_in_the_Twenty-First_Century

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Australian cult leader - A former Jehovah's Witness

by Hidden-Window in

jw
friends

a documentary states that this cult leader, who claims to be jesus, used to be "a jehovah's witness pastor".

i guess they mean elder.

does anybody from australia recognize him?.

Max Divergent

I'm not sure how he is, but I'd say 50 to 55. Why does he look younger in the pics? Dunno. Maybe they're oldish photos? Or he's living well? Or being Jesus He just makes Himself look however He wants? But he's definitely the same John Miller. It would have been about 1994/96-ish that I last saw him.

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How many deaths does the Bible record?

by LogCon in

num 11:1. .

num 11:33. .

num 14:35-45.

Max Divergent

God DOES NOT kill. Killing is done by those who CANNOT give that life back again. Jehovah does not kill, he simply takes away the lives of people who are disobedient but he has the ability to grant them life & restore life to them again if he wants to!

Do I remember right that there's no coming back from the second death?

Rev 21:8 (NWT): But as for the cowards and those without faith and those who are disgusting in their filth and murderer and the sexually immoral and those practicing spiritism and idolaters and all the liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This means the second death.”

That's pretty much everyone, so I'm not sure if that technicality is technically right.

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How many deaths does the Bible record?

by LogCon in

num 11:1. .

num 11:33. .

num 14:35-45.

Max Divergent

Apparently the bible also promises the deaths of pretty much everyone now living, roughly 7 billion.

And then, in 1000-ish years everyone who gets through that (or is resurected or born or whatever, ie: a lot of people) but dosn't like the rules in Paradise gets done in too. If Paradise is run along JW rules, then probably a lot of people won't like Paradise: so lots more killings to come then.

Not that they're human, but I think there's also something about the demons being burned alive at the same time - there might be a lot of them.

Nothing like a good mass killing to show the Supreme Being to be the Almighty.

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Australian cult leader - A former Jehovah's Witness

by Hidden-Window in

jw
friends

a documentary states that this cult leader, who claims to be jesus, used to be "a jehovah's witness pastor".

i guess they mean elder.

does anybody from australia recognize him?.

Max Divergent

He was called John Miller when he was a JW. He was the School Overseer in Port Augusta in South Australia last time I met him which might be 20 years ago.

John had some personal issues which led to divorce and DF, as I recall. He was always a friendly, smart guy. He repaired computers and pin ball machines from memory. He was quite popular and friendly.

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AAWA activists burst into a Kingdom Hall in Kent!

by raymond frantz in

aawa activists burst into a kingdom hall in kent.

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Max Divergent

In my view that was a disgrace.

At least there was a modicum of good humour and courtesy shown at times, but the overall act was aggressive, intrusive, disrespectful, selfish and annoying. Better judgement would have left it at that: but then they publish a video of their actions. It’s poor judgement to show a video of yourself acting boorishly.

In contrast, the JWs were calm, reasonable and firmly held up their rights.

JWs right. Apostates wrong. That’s not good.